bill richardson, the former ambassador of the united nations and secretary of energy. these are who the crop of candidates that president obama beat. >> i think if gary johnson had been allowed in those debates it would have been much more interesting. >> it would have been interesting to see what ron paul's philosophy looks like without crazy. >> you. >> and not to say that i don't think that the philosophy is crazy, but the presentation of the philosophy. >> half of it is very sane. half of it is beyond the democrats. i think that ron paul is one of the few people in congress to stand up and say that the iraq war was unconstitutional. it was. >> libertarianism is like the hold out spot for people who want to think that they're better than the democrats and conservatives. i'd like at this point, first of all, you're never going to elect a libertarian. second of all there's far more room to negotiate and soften your position in economics on the left than social issues on the right. >> yeah. >> anybody who is a libertarian in the republican party is not doing anything t